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Googie
Posted on 11-06-09 04:48 AM Link | Quote | ID: 118899


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Last view: 18 days 		For anything, it comes & goes & it's been doing it very frequent lately. God™ it's like I wanna get outta this rut I'm in already & move on to do what I gotta do but I can't find the motivation to do it. I even spoke to my therapist about it, he says that my body is still making changes.

Well I cant' wait for the day I can get motivated to do the things that make me happy again soon...

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KP9000
Posted on 11-06-09 04:51 AM Link | Quote | ID: 118900


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Yeah, I'm jobless, but have no motivation whatsoever to do a damn thing about that. Nothing whatsoever. Even everyday things I have no motivation to do, like cook my own damn dinner.

I hear ya man, and it sucks. I don't know what to tell ya...

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blackhole89
Posted on 11-06-09 04:52 AM Link | Quote | ID: 118901


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Your therapist? "making changes"? Do you have any particular ailment that might be connected to this?

To my knowledge, apart from psychological reasons (depressions, what-not), hormone levels can have a significant influence on motivation and mood; while I don't mean to say you should be taking testosterone pills whenever you feel unmotivated, if it's a state that persists and appears to have unusual or pathological dimensions, that also might be taken as a starting point for investigations into the reason.

When I experience temporary bouts of apathy, I just try to sit (TV, anime, games...) or sleep them out.

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Googie
Posted on 11-06-09 05:04 PM Link | Quote | ID: 118917


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Last view: 18 days 		My bad Blackie, I suffer from depression. One of my medications I take does causes drowsiness, the others are to control my anger & anxiety. Having too much on my mind doesn't help matters much either, I really want this to pass.

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Trax
Posted on 11-07-09 03:28 AM Link | Quote | ID: 118958


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Last view: 18 hours 		What the...? Are you mad? You are depressed are take medications? There's no link at all...
The best the medication can bring to you is damage to your brain and eventually psychotic episodes...
Dammit, how can doctors prescribe this stuff without going directly to jail...

KP9000
Posted on 11-07-09 03:54 AM Link | Quote | ID: 118962


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On the contrary; there are some people that actually need the help of medicine to get them through life. The problem lies in too many doctors prescribing too much medicine and their lack of knowledge thereof. I, myself, suffer from being over- and mis-medicated in my childhood, it will really screw you up. However, there are some cases where it's absolutely necessary given the health issues of the person receiving the prescriptions and the careful examination of whether the drug will cause harm.

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Trax
Posted on 11-07-09 08:01 PM Link | Quote | ID: 118980


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Last view: 18 hours 		Unfortunately, the drugs that are currently commerciialized in the USA are all harmful, especially for the central nervous system. But your doctor will never prescribe you the weird and unproved act of talking to a friend, or family member... Because this is not profitable...

blackhole89
Posted on 11-07-09 09:02 PM Link | Quote | ID: 118981


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Trax, please don't take your anti-healthcare/medicine/science agenda here. If you want to, feel free to start another Debate thread on it, though I doubt many people will want to jump onto that after you flatly ignored all arguments that were brought up against your position the last time.

On that matter, though, the merits of psychiatric medication are more than dubious; many of those prescribed against "aggressive" disorders simply more or less keep the patient in a tranquilized or stoned state, obviously being aimed more at solving the problem for the patient's environment than the patient himself.

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SX
Posted on 11-11-09 10:19 AM Link | Quote | ID: 119174


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Posted by blackhole89
Trax, please don't take your anti-healthcare/medicine/science agenda here. If you want to, feel free to start another Debate thread on it, though I doubt many people will want to jump onto that after you flatly ignored all arguments that were brought up against your position the last time.

On that matter, though, the merits of psychiatric medication are more than dubious; many of those prescribed against "aggressive" disorders simply more or less keep the patient in a tranquilized or stoned state, obviously being aimed more at solving the problem for the patient's environment than the patient himself.

some medication combinations do really make people like that, but i'd defer to a doctor (a second opinion) to evaluate that sort of thing.

when this happens to me in its not infrequent bouts i anime or sleep or touhou and/or take medications. i used to have an all-sedative medication list (for pain), and now that I sorted that out i feel a lot less dazed all the time. it is quite pleasant.

Trax
Posted on 11-12-09 02:10 AM Link | Quote | ID: 119222


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Last view: 18 hours 		In this case, it's not a debate, I'm just telling Googie what I think of it, and if there are things that are obvious, I say them on the way as well...

I'm stating a fact here. The Physicians' Desk Reference lists the following adverse reactions (side effects) to antidepressants among a host of other physical and neuropsychiatric effects.

- Manic Reaction (Mania, e.g., Kleptomania, Pyromania, Dipsomania)
- Abnormal Thinking
- Hallucinations
- Personality Disorder
- Amnesia
- Agitation
- Psychosis
- Abnormal Dreams
- Emotional Lability (Or Instability)
- Alcohol Abuse and/or Craving
- Hostility
- Paranoid Reactions
- Confusion
- Delusions
- Sleep Disorders
- Akathisia (Severe Inner Restlessness)
- Discontinuation (Withdrawal) Syndrome

Make your choice...


blackhole89
Posted on 11-12-09 02:20 AM Link | Quote | ID: 119223


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Those are all side effects of not taking them as well.

Something like that being listed alone does neither state anything about the incidence rate nor does it really take into account the sufficiently high likelihood of patients who are prescribed psychiatric drugs already being latently prone to the observed issues, or even already being afflicted by them because of positive confirmation bias. All of the examples cited seem like typical examples for psychosomatic disorders.

Without providing that kind of details, your list really seems like nothing more than a fear, uncertainty and doubt propaganda approach to furthering your point, trying to convince people through fear rather than rational and scrutinizable arguments. It's no better than arguing how dangerous something is by dumping long and shady-sounding chemical names of compounds it contains.

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Trax
Posted on 11-13-09 12:49 AM Link | Quote | ID: 119273


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Last view: 18 hours 		About half of these elements are listed as "Frequent" and the other half as "Infrequent". Not one of them is listed as "Rare". And that's about it. Your doctor would give you the same information about side effects because he uses the same reference book...

And I don't recall anyone saying he was suffering from hallucinations or psychosis...

The other point to consider is that these side effects can reveal worse or at least equal in intensity months AFTER getting off the drugs, called withdrawal effects... Just like any drug, recreative or medical...

That's the info, I'm out...

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